Adam Posner: Whats the Point of Loyalty?

What is customer loyalty — really?

Is it points? Discounts? Retention metrics? Or is it something deeper?

In this episode of What I Learned in Business (That Didn’t Kill Me!), I sit down with Adam Posner, founder of The Point of Loyalty, host of the What’s the Point of Loyalty? podcast, and author of For Love or Money™ — one of Australia’s longest-running loyalty research studies, spanning nearly two decades and 18 editions.

But before Adam became a loyalty strategist, his life gave him a very different education. Growing up in Johannesburg during apartheid, living through conscription into national service, surviving a terrorist car bomb explosion, and emigrating to Australia to start again from scratch — Adam’s worldview was shaped long before he ever designed a loyalty program.

From walking the streets delivering scratch-and-save cards into letterboxes, to building a direct marketing agency and ultimately pivoting into customer research and loyalty strategy, Adam has spent nearly 20 years asking a deceptively simple question:

What actually makes customers stay?

In this conversation, we explore:

  • Why loyalty is about Behaviour, Belief and Belonging

  • The importance of retail response when the customer experience disappoints loyalty

  • Why customer loyalty and trust are closely connected

  • Why the world needs a “Pandemic of Joy” — and what Adam calls Joyalty

  • How AI and agentic technology may redefine brand–customer relationships

This episode is a masterclass in what Adam calls “the finance of feelings” — the commercial power of emotion in a data-driven world.

If you lead a brand, manage customer strategy, sit on a board, or simply care about how businesses build trust — this one is for you.

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